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« on: July 17, 2010, 03:10:34 PM » |
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Still reading the You Never Give Me Your Money. It's about the break-up.
I hope to just post some stuff that I remember from reading it.
Paul, at one point, blamed it on Allen Klein.
I don't know. Maybe partly but not highly significant. It's also good that Klein didn't have unanimous backing from the group. Woulda ended very badly.
He also stated that "John married Yoko. I married Linda. We married different people."
Does that blame Yoko? Does that put the idea out there for others to decide that it was Yoko without just coming out and saying it himself?
The book also mentions that John was in an interview around the time of the Toronto concert. He's talking about, or rather around, the issue of them splitting, and john said, "I don't want to talk about it without Paul here."
That just struck me as so cool and somehow happy. Even at that point, when John had told the others he was leaving, that he had enough concern for Paul that he wouldn't just start sounding off with some straightforward, not-well-thought-out stuff...at which John could be so good.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 12:31:05 AM » |
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I am also surprised how serious they were about working together in some form after 1970. George told a friend that if they didn't get rid of Klein, then the chances of working with Paul again were virtually zero.
Even John mentioned many times that he'd work with Paul again.
I don't know why people have concentrated on Yoko breaking up the group when there is really an issue of her role in keeping them apart. She really made a successful effort to keep John away from getting to know them again.
Now...that's all based on this book. If the book is wrong. I'm wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 12:27:07 AM » |
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Ha! On John's RR/Roots album he did Peggy Sue...a Buddy Holly number. Who got the publishing royalties? That's right; Paul.
It states that Paul got a bigger cut of Beatle royalties than the others from EMI in 79 when he signed his new contract.
Jack Douglass said that Yoko came to him and said that she was going to have songs on the album but that John didn't know it yet. He also said that they really couldn't work together in the studio and weren't there much for each others' recordings.
All-in-all it's, once again, the story of John and Yoko as it probably really was and not quite the way John described it. I doubt that it was as bad as Green or Seaman told it, but I doubt it was like John or Yoko described it either.
...and it's so brutal to read again how Paul phoned the studio for the Double Fantasy sessions, wanting to drop by, only to be thwarted by Yoko.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 04:53:26 PM » |
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This is a long story, but...
Paul is crying and Carl Perkins goes to ask Linda why. Carl had just played Paul a song he was writing about old friends. After a strange story Linda says that there were two people in the world who knew what the last words that John said to Paul were in person. She said to Carl that now there would be three.
She explained to Carl: They were in the hallway of the Dakota. John patted Paul on the shoulder and said,
"Think about me every now and then, old friend."
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 08:25:15 PM » |
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Greg thanks for the great book reports! That last post is a chiller. wOw.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 10:27:46 PM » |
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Paperback Writer thanks much, much, much.
I was hoping someone was interested in the book info I was posting. I didn't know if it was just useless posting or what.
Yeah, that story about the last words is one of the most memorable Beatle stories I've heard.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 10:44:40 AM » |
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Yeah sorry Greg....I'm really enjoying the book excerpts...I never knew any of that stuff before. That last one left me a little verklempt for sure.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 10:31:51 AM » |
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Thanks again.
It's great to know it's worthwhile for me to post the reviews. You know, you think "I don't want the moderators going: 'What? Does he think he has his own private blog here?'" All I can say is thanks again you guys. I really wasn't fishing for feedback or compliments. I was asking if I was overstepping my bounds.
So...
It's almost 400 pages, so it does take you through a fairly extended journey.
It's kind of strange, but it kind of does take a bit of explaining to cover the breakup of a group that was active, as a group, in the U.S. market for only 6 years.
It's even stranger that, in a sense, it took them almost 30 years to breakup.
You really get a sense that it really is coming to an end as far as "those who were there" or "those who lived it". There are two Fabs and very few "insiders" left. Emerick, Martin, maybe Barrow, Bicknell, Mansfield, Magic Alex are here. But many have passed on.
It covers the business aspects of their lives; not the music.
The amount of litigation and the on-and-off animosity towards everyone involved (not just the four Fabs) is quite amazing.
It starts near the end of the group and goes up to 2009 or so.
I definitely liked the book.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 12:13:56 PM » |
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You know, you think "I don't want the moderators going: 'What? Does he think he has his own private blog here?'" Actually, that is EXACTLY what it is. The whole idea of this site is for Beatle fans to say what ever they want about just about anything they want to talk about. Most of us used to, or still are members of other Beatle sites. We used to chat amongst ourselves about a huge variety of topics. Unfortunately, some people got carried away and the topics were closed. So YOU or anyone else can try and talk about any subject you want here...without being scolded and told you can't talk about that here. So...go nuts. The worst that can happen is nobody will reply.  |
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 03:13:27 PM » |
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Well that was one cool thing to read.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2010, 05:31:00 PM » |
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I would echo what Mr. 2 said about this being as free a Beatle site as it can be...the ground we can cover is astounding! Loved your review, Greg...thanks for that.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2010, 07:51:34 AM » |
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Loved this book. For me, it wasn't about any myth, but 4 guys who made mistakes and their consequences. It gives an idea of what it was like for them from that angle. It humanized them which is what I like to read about.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2010, 09:16:26 PM » |
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I like this book quite a bit. Even though it has many pages it is a page turner for sure.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 05:44:35 PM » |
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Whoa...that rapgenius site is crazy man. What a site. I'd never seen it. Amazing stuff and great design at that.
I'll now have to look in several sources to see what I have on You Never Give Me Your Money. That song was written during the Klein/Eastman divide wasn't it? Also Paul will throw in those vague lines here and there that really don't mean anything (as John was prone to do, but at least you mostly knew when John was doing it).
Any I will have to look more. Anyone else got stuff? I imagine wiki explains a lot. Those two books would explain a lot too. Dowdling or something and Turner's.
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