60's Generation

[Greg]

Was there really a 60's generation wanting peace, etc?  What did they become?

[mervap]

I wasn't around then, so I am no expert, but I feel that MOST people of all generations want to live in peace with their fellow men/women. It's always the troublemakers that get the press, though...

[Kylenz]

Greg, Frank Zappa once did a great interview on this very subject and I found it on YouTube-



It's about the change in the music industry, but basically he says that all the hippies and peace-lovin free-thinking folk back in the 60s could initially come in and do their thing since all the men in suits didn't understand it - and because it made them money, they allowed anything to happen (same thing happened in the tv industry in the UK with comedy such as The Goodies and Monty Python). Then later on, the industry changed, and all the old ex-hippies are now running the studios - with pre-defined ideas of what constututes great music. And of course you get a new generation coming along with new ideas but they are unable to get it out there since it won't fit with the formats and hence, these old hippies actually become more fascist and stand in the way of the development of new music to come forward!

I thought it was quite interesting, considering some of the dire banal music that came out of the 80s, compared to the oddball music of the 60s that somehow snuck through!

FZ was quite a wise dude, he tells it like it is. Shame he's no longer around.

[Paperback Writer]

Good, but broad topic, this summarizes it well - it's a HELL of LOT BETTER than the neo-cons want you to believe.  Right on! (LOL)




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterculture_of_the_1960s

[Greg]

I was just a kid during the 60's but I was aware of enough to think that when I grew up I would be carrying on the torch of what I saw around me.  That didn't happen. 

Yes, this topic is too broad I agree.  But, I just wonder what happened to the 60's generation.  Did they turn 30-something in the eighties and elect Reagan to two landslide victories?

I am in a local peace and justice group that works to end the wars among other things.  There is one baby-boomer on it.  idk.  I am technically a baby-boomer, but was too young to really be part of that stuff.

I saw this poll:
Contrary to common belief, college students were not more likely to protest the war than those without a college education. In 1966, a survey conducted by the University of Michigan revealed that only 26% of those with a college education favored American withdrawal from Vietnam—as opposed to 41% of those with only an eighth-grade education.

That Zappa interview was dead on and amazing.

I was going to say that people to want peace, but just add to that a Chomsky quote: Everyone wants peace, but they want peace on their terms.  And yeah the 'troublemakers' theory is so so so true.

Counterculture article fr. PW:  Thanks.

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only 26% of those with a college education favored American withdrawal from Vietnam—as opposed to 41% of those with only an eighth-grade education.

Could you even be drafted if you were in college?

[Greg]

You couldn't because they had the college deferment I'm pretty sure.  I wonder if that study shows that the people who couldn't get drafted were less likely to support withdrawal than those who actually had to go fight.