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« on: September 15, 2007, 08:36:50 PM » |
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if you ask a group of beatle fans what the best solo beatle album is...there would be a couple of repeat answers. i, personally, would volunteer band on the run and plastic ono band as my immediate answers. there might be a few more...some like imagine, some like ram, or tug of war. but does the answer have to be from the the two primary beatles? why...? because they are more worthy? if you answer yes to this (i am not arguing who are the best beatles...or who made the most quality solo music) then you are not appreciating my question. should an obvious quality george album (all things must pass) not be up for consideration, just because it wasn't done by paul or john?
for anyone who has ever had the pleasure of listening to it...george's 1970 release, all things must pass...is filled with three albums worth of songs that did not make previous beatle albums because...john and paul were leaders of the band...and they "allowed" george only two songs per album. which means he accumulated tons of music...all of which can stand comfortably side by side next to the best of paul's or john's finest solo moment.
does george get the credit he deserves? should he? is he recognised as the fantastic songwriter...and guitarist...that he was. does the best solo beatle album have to automatically go to paul or john?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2007, 10:24:04 PM » |
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I think you have great points and I agree! All of the best solo albums don't have to go to John or Paul. I absolutely love George albums..... if for no other reason than his guitar playing.... espcially when he played slide. The man knew how to make a guitar "sing" (he could literally bring one to life). And his style was so..... well.... "George". There's almost no way to mistake it for anyone else.
"Stuck Inside A Cloud" is a perfect example. The song can't help but take on its own personality.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 04:24:16 PM » |
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he was a great slide guitarist. arguably...the only one i can think of who bests him is the one and only duane allman. but george has never been given proper due...for either his singing, songwriting, or his guitar playing. that said...he was probably the finest guitarist in that band from liverpool...what were they called again?
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 06:26:14 PM » |
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With all due respect, I'm not even sure we can compare George with Duane Allman....such a different genre of music. Duane Allman played with a fire that I've never heard anyone play slide with before....George is a very different player, as his songs are of a more thoughtful nature and his slide playing absolutely oozes thoughtfulness. Both masters of their own domain!  |
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 06:48:45 PM » |
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okay...i agree with what you say. it was not really my intention to compare the two. if someone were to ask me who the best slide guitarists were/are...the first two names to pop in my head would be duane and george. you're right...they are eons apart in style and technique. they jusy happen to be linked in slide guitar only. i'm sure given proper reflection...there would be another one or two to come up.
duane allman, was a little known guitarist in a southern blues group very early in his career when he was asked to play along side eric clapton (derek and his dominoes). by the time those sessions were over, and the album was released...he was considered claptons equal. he has recieved his proper, and just...credit and due.
but if you look back and see how guitarists are looked upon...george, i don't think, was given his due. very few up and coming guitarists, alone, in their parent's basement, are pretending to be george harrison. i'm not sure if i am suggesting he should be considered one of the best. but he should be recognised as an important musician...in an important band...during an important time. and its in this regard...i feel...his respect is lacking.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 07:32:15 PM » |
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True enough on all points. However, if you think about it, not only was George an important musician in an important band, but he truely honed his slide style in his solo career.
Had he picked up the slide earlier and people had heard him play it while he was IN the Beatles, he would have been/be more well known for his great ability to play slide. His overall guitar ability would be more recognized as well.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 09:45:07 PM » |
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Just trying to think of Beatles songs with slide guitar - there's Old Brown Shoe and For You Blue... any others?
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 09:59:17 PM » |
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I remember in a very early incarnation of "Strawberry Fields" there was a very promonient, if somewhat simplistic, slide guitar. I'm not sure if much of that survived to the finished product.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 03:00:45 AM » |
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Yeah that's the version on the Anthology! It's a great version too. Have a listen 3 minutes into Helter Skelter - another slide guitar there? Sounds like it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2007, 09:10:12 PM » |
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He was very focused on the Rick 12-string, at first, the slide came later, like on:SOMETHING! That with Paul's bass is eternal in our ears.  |
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 03:43:46 AM » |
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Right on....George picked up and masered his unique slide style seemimgly overnight....and wow!
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2007, 03:59:00 PM » |
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It's interesting how guitar players can actually have their own sound...almost as distinctive as a voice. It not too difficult to hear a song and know right away, that it's Clapton, or Harrison. And not just the slide as you were mentioning....George had a unique writing style too. He had that Harrison Lick...such as...If I needed someone, What is life, It don't come easy....you just KNOW that sound. The guy was great. Quick, somebody clone him  |
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2007, 08:28:06 PM » |
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its a shame, really, that he was pretty underappreciated while he was with us. maybe thats just how things go...
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2007, 12:21:30 AM » |
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He was very focused on the Rick 12-string, at first, the slide came later, like on:SOMETHING! That with Paul's bass is eternal in our ears. sorry... i know we are talking about George here...love you, George!!...but the bass on "Something" is one of my absolute favorites!!! i sometimes listen to that song just to be mesmerized by the bass... ok...back to our regularly scheduled program... |
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2007, 01:36:06 PM » |
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You are quite correct about "Something"....few ballads can hold my interest musically, and this one does. All the parts are, or seem to be, very well-thought out, and played with what is, for lack of a better term, laid-back intensity, the bass in particular.
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